this place have give mee some very good things, as ongoing jw, i have a lot of qestions who was embarresing mee, now i have answers on this issus, now i now that it was not only mee who was badley treated, not only my son who was dfd for minor things , not only mee who was an liberal elder who dont like to hunt peopel, not only mee wo didnt like this wolfs among us, not only mee .
who was have trubel widh treatment of dfd children, not only mee who have bigg qestion of this new polycie inn the blood issu, not only mee who was wondering why generation thing was so easly change, not only mee who was missing the days when we joj to bee jw, not only mee who was missing love and care in the cong, not only mee who was terrifed of some peopel who could give inn the best friend, not only mee who didnt understand the wolf come tommorw talk, and so on and so on.
bless the peopel who putt this site upp, and even some of the signatures here, like casseline, who suffer like job, or amazing who tell some very intresting thing, and hillary step who give intresting wuies from inside of the topp peopel.
Happyman....I wish I had the chance to meet you face to face. You sound like a very sincere person. Keep reading the posts here. It has helped me to see that I made the right dicision to leave the WTS. Your freedom to think on your own is the most important thing and no one should take that from you.
CC
This latest "crackdown" will be shaking the WTS tree and many more hopefully will fall our way. I enjoyed all your comments on this thread. Doesn't it make your heart rejoice with gladness that your not under that mind control any longer!!
They use a few sentences in par. 5 to tell their faithful NO MORE INTERNET...unless you go to the "official site"....what a bunch of crap! It goes back to the point that if they are so confident that what they teach is the truth, then what are they afraid of!
CC
if u live in or around nashville please reply thru the post
Myself...How's Sept. 7th Sat. around 6-7pm at Hooters...ok ok Tink....I mean O'charlies at Rivergate?
CC
what were the worst introductions you remmeber people using on the ministry?
"hello my friend and i....." .
"hello we've been talking to your neighbours, do you think we can ever see a peaceful world?
Two brothers approach door...door opens...brother starts.." Hel...." I"M NOT INTERESTED...brother: but? I TOLD YOU...I"M NOT INTERESTED...how do you know what....I TOLD YOU I"M NOT INTERESTED. brother finally says: Thats too bad...I was giving away Hundred dollar bills...and walks away..
I actually got fed up with service one day and said that. Got counseled yet again. I always had a real bad attitude.
CC
one thing that i enjoy about this board is the variety of topics that you can enjoy.
there is the "fluff" and there is the serious and there's something a little in between.
which subjects do you find most interesting to read?
I like Dirt on the WTBS. I like some bible discussion, but alot of them get too lengthy and I lose interest. I also like viewing family pic's and vacation pic's from all. They give you a chance to put some reality and faces with the posts. I like keeping up with Bill's Silentlambs efforts the most. I think his efforts and those who help him will do some major damage to the WTBS. I think the fluff is good too. You need some fun to keep your sense of humor in tact...LOL.
CC
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as former jw i did witness favouritism towards elders and circuit overseers and also noticed how low status j-dubs actually lined up to speak to the circuit/overseers wife.even outside association seemed to be confined to say elders associating with elders etc.
i remember when even a sister gave a glass of water to a coughing circuit.overseer but i noticed she never did this to others in the hall.. then for instance how many at the hall formed groupies after meetings not making any effort to gell with others,i felt so sorry for those just sitting on there own.. so why do they act like this, it beats me because a lot of literature and talks focused on not being impartial to others,were they really taking it in or was it a question of congregation status or favouritism towards others.. also outside the meetings association didnt seem to exist and only confined to a certain favoured individuals.
I lived up North most of my life (Ct.) I was guilty of being cliqueish. I had been real tight with an Elder for 20 years. He had alot of parties that only those who drank and partyed heavily and kept it quiet would be invited too. He had moved South and after my divorce I decided to go South as well. They made a major deal of finding me the new "Ideal Mate". He and his family were always introducing me to pioneers. My answer was always, "I tried being married to a pioneer for 20 years, never again". They brought one pioneer over for diner and invited me. Tink was also invited because she was friends with this pioneer. Tink was just newly re-instated and they were very strongly against me having interest in her. Guess who I ended up marrying..LOL.
The Elder tried to explain that the other sister was "well connected with a strong family in the truth, with everyone being a pioneer, elder, or MS". That's all I heard for months. Who you know, what "status they have in the Cong....blah, blah, blah.
After Tink and I were married, we were left out of gatherings, after meeting meet-ups at restaurants, and parts on meetings. This was the beginning of the end. I never realized how bad it was while being involved with them until I stepped back into reality.
We sure are happy now!
CC
just curious.. i started diving (scuba!!!
) in 1990, progressing to advanced instructor with the british sub aqua club (equiv.
3 star instructor cmas).
Hey LB 56!!!!! You just blew my mind man...That's a great attitude...keep going till the air runs out...LOL... I am really jonsing about going diving again. Where land locked here in Tn. Center Hill Lake and Dale Hollow Lake are the only places I know of around here that people dive, but there is limited visibility and if you like swimming with giant sized catfish (50-80 lbs as big as a bus) then so be it. NOT for me. Like I said before, I'm spoiled with warm water and 100+ ft visibility.
Funds are pretty low too. We bought a house 2 yrs ago and put most of our money into it. We haven't been on a decent vacation in a while, so this Feb or Mar Tink and I are talking about Aruba. She has never been there and I had a time share there in the early 90's so I know alot of cool places that both of us would love. She's not a diver and has a hard time even snorkling. I haven't even been snorkling with her yet. Some guy in Fla. tryed to teach her in a pool but had no teaching quality's. I was trained by some good instructors and I told her I'd help her. I picked up some good technics to help newcomers.
If someone wants to plan a short dive vacation in the future I'd be interested enough to look into it. Let me know if anyone is planning something.
CC
just curious.. i started diving (scuba!!!
) in 1990, progressing to advanced instructor with the british sub aqua club (equiv.
3 star instructor cmas).
Hey LB, what do you mean at your age! You can't be older than me. I'm 47 and am in decent shape. I've got rhuemadoid arthritis but it doesn't bother me when I dive, only when bad weather comes. You look maybe 45 but more like 42. I've been diving with guys in their fifty's and they do very well. Come on you spring chicken!....LOL
CC
i'm getting married on oct.13.
i only have less than two months to get ready for the wedding, and i didn't have anything ready last week.
as you may know i am da'd.
(((((((((((((Sunshine Too))))))))))))))))
There's more where that came from!
bill bowen has started an organized effort to help innocent vicitms and their families to recover from the abuse they suffered and the way the wts has handled their cases.
he has started a thread to see if anyone among us here at jw.com would like to help in those efforts.. someone, who we are all familiar with, has disrupted bill's request with equally insensitive remarks and intent as that of the recently deactivated fred hall and bleep.
he states that he has the right to post anywhere and say anything he wants, well, hopefully simon has a different answer!.
This is Tinkerbell's post....I didn't change the format before submitting my post and had to edit......sorry. Tink
Say you're in a restarant with a friend and at the next table, there's this little babbling baby. If this is a distraction to you and your friend, well, we all know what we would do, It might be a distraction, but you carry on with your dinner.
You can't lean over and say, *hey there baby, shut the hell up or leave!* No, of course not! =;o)
Maybe it's a small distraction. But that's all it is, a small distraction.
Same here, this is just a distraction from a few babbling babies.
It wont change my cause to bring down the WTS. This is just the tip of the iceburg! It may not be a picnic in the park for me, but it wont stop me. I will not stop until the WTS is exposed for what it really is.
I was abused as a child and as a adult. At that time, I could only react to what I had been taught by the WTS. I know differently now. I can make a difference now, in hopes that this wont ever happen to another young girl. I want this abuse to stop! I don't want it to happen to another person! And I can't sit back and do nothing!
As far as I'm concerned, You Know and Bleep or whoever wants to babble, thats fine, babble away.
Babble on! It wont change the fact that the WTS IS GOING DOWN.
Edited by - CC Ryder on 19 August 2002 12:41:56
